Comments on: Working harder than before http://www.rightee.com/2010/02/04/working-harder-than-before/ Fri, 05 Feb 2010 11:52:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Leanne http://www.rightee.com/2010/02/04/working-harder-than-before/comment-page-1/#comment-6412 Leanne Fri, 05 Feb 2010 11:52:01 +0000 http://www.rightee.com/?p=463#comment-6412 I totally agree. The changes needed will never come from those that are in power for the simple reason that the ultimate root cause of most of the problems we face today (climate change, inequality, fuel crisis, economic crisis etc etc) is the system itself and the real changes that need to be made imply that this system can no longer exist. Ultimately it is up to the individual, people need to take responsibility for their own actions and not rely on the government, or any other institution, to take the lead. As the man said, 'Be the change that you want to see in the world'. At some point we will have to realise that we cannot continue to live like this. The sooner people start to make changes to their own lives the easier the change will be on them. Leave it too long and the change will come regardless and you may find yourself facing a very different, difficult way of life. I totally agree. The changes needed will never come from those that are in power for the simple reason that the ultimate root cause of most of the problems we face today (climate change, inequality, fuel crisis, economic crisis etc etc) is the system itself and the real changes that need to be made imply that this system can no longer exist.

Ultimately it is up to the individual, people need to take responsibility for their own actions and not rely on the government, or any other institution, to take the lead. As the man said, ‘Be the change that you want to see in the world’.

At some point we will have to realise that we cannot continue to live like this. The sooner people start to make changes to their own lives the easier the change will be on them. Leave it too long and the change will come regardless and you may find yourself facing a very different, difficult way of life.

]]> By: John Hobson http://www.rightee.com/2010/02/04/working-harder-than-before/comment-page-1/#comment-6411 John Hobson Fri, 05 Feb 2010 08:37:36 +0000 http://www.rightee.com/?p=463#comment-6411 I agree with all of this in principle, where I struggle is how we might actually make it happen. Power in western countries is so centralised and so powerful, and increasingly so, that it seems like an immoveable beast. Even crises that you think should have some serious ramifications don't, for instance the financial crisis in which banks are actually profiting from or the MP's expenses in which much the same politicians are still in power, all that has generated is greater voter apathy. Taking the financial crisis, I don't think there could have been a bigger signal that our economic system needs radical reform, but to me it looks exactly the same as it ever did, still based on flawed ideology of the free market and the utter fallacy of constant growth - a model so obviously and demonstratably wrong it is to my eyes indefensible. At least Gordon Brown is now talking about electoral reform, a positive move but one that I doubt was generated for the right motives, more in desperation to cling to power. There is at least a glimmer of hope here for more radical, by radical I mean in relation to the current political system not that I believe the views to radical per-se, views to get a say in parliament. A lot of what needs to happen is very long-term but our political system, in fact most systems in which we operate, do so on a very short term basis, short term thinking is encouraged. Even when countries get together to try and do something co-ordinated, like at Copenhagen, any sort of deal gets so watered down it's as good as useless. You can argue it's a step in the right direction but if the step is so small that its impact is minimal is it worth it all? Talking particularly environmentally I'm sure that something significant will happen, but not until it is far too late, not until there are no other options left, societies will fail, government will fail and both will be rebuilt but in a time of chaos and desperation. How do you think we would best go about change? What organisations are leading the charge? Can real change happen outside of the political system and if not how do we really get our voices heard within it? I agree with all of this in principle, where I struggle is how we might actually make it happen. Power in western countries is so centralised and so powerful, and increasingly so, that it seems like an immoveable beast. Even crises that you think should have some serious ramifications don’t, for instance the financial crisis in which banks are actually profiting from or the MP’s expenses in which much the same politicians are still in power, all that has generated is greater voter apathy.

Taking the financial crisis, I don’t think there could have been a bigger signal that our economic system needs radical reform, but to me it looks exactly the same as it ever did, still based on flawed ideology of the free market and the utter fallacy of constant growth – a model so obviously and demonstratably wrong it is to my eyes indefensible.

At least Gordon Brown is now talking about electoral reform, a positive move but one that I doubt was generated for the right motives, more in desperation to cling to power. There is at least a glimmer of hope here for more radical, by radical I mean in relation to the current political system not that I believe the views to radical per-se, views to get a say in parliament.

A lot of what needs to happen is very long-term but our political system, in fact most systems in which we operate, do so on a very short term basis, short term thinking is encouraged.

Even when countries get together to try and do something co-ordinated, like at Copenhagen, any sort of deal gets so watered down it’s as good as useless. You can argue it’s a step in the right direction but if the step is so small that its impact is minimal is it worth it all?

Talking particularly environmentally I’m sure that something significant will happen, but not until it is far too late, not until there are no other options left, societies will fail, government will fail and both will be rebuilt but in a time of chaos and desperation.

How do you think we would best go about change? What organisations are leading the charge? Can real change happen outside of the political system and if not how do we really get our voices heard within it?

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